Parrotopia *PIC*

Posted By: Wil
Date: Thursday, 7 March 2002, at 5:31 a.m.

This is the image to come mentioned below, a great presentation by Wil Faust that I am posting on his behalf. His commentary follows and responses will go directly to his email. I should mention that Wil has background in what cities do look like, but I'll leave that for him.

NOTES:

These comments are referenced to the letters on the image. The lettered notes are adjacent to, but not directly over, the features to which they refer.

A. The Parrot's head. The image scale notations are directly over the near side wing cover. Note the anatomically correct leg structures.

B. Three examples of apparent arterial grade separations (i.e. over- and underpasses).

C. Curved, cylindrical forms connecting to large, multi-level structures.

D. Three examples of linear alignments composed of rectilinear structures.

E. Two examples where lineations seem to enter tunnel entrances.

F. Multiple lineations -- perhaps as many as ten -- converge radially near this point.

G. Three structural alignments converge near this point on the Parrot's right shoulder. The image detail may have been partially erased in this area. There is a human-like face faintly visible just to the left of the notation.
 
 

Re: Parrotopia

Posted By: George J. Haas
Date: Friday, 8 March 2002, at 12:25 p.m.

In Response To: Parrotopia *PIC* (Wil)

Nice find Wilmer. This "bird" is almost too good to be true. Not only did you find a full bodied, anatomically correct Parrot, in profile, but it's located just below a major city complex! I don't know which find is better.

WOW!
 
 

The following analytical drawing identifies the 18 points of confirmation that the Doctor believes provides overwhelming evidence that the pictograph not only represents a Parrot but it's features are anatomically correct.

A. The Belly  B. The Body  C. Feather Shafts  D. The Eye  E. Primary Flight Feathers  F. Cere (the top potion of the beak)  G. Unknown artifact, possibly a feather  H. Beak  I. Tongue  J. Jaw  K. Head  L. Hood Line (neck)  M. Claw  N. Foot and Toes  O. Leg - Metatarsus  P. Leg - Tarsus Joint  Q. Leg - Tibia  R. Tail Feathers

George J. Haas

In Response To: The Parrots 18 points of projection! *PIC* (Starjim for George Haas)

The odd unknown artifact that I labeled "G", that "penetrates the "beak" of the Parrot, may be the "darts" that one of the Hero Twins shoot at
Seven Macaw, as recorded in the Popol Vuh. In the Creation story of the Popol Vuh, one of the Hero Twins hits Seven Macaw in the beak with a dart from a blow gun, knocking out one of his "shinny teeth", sending him down to Earth. These odd feather-like projection on and around the
beak may represent these "darts". Note the attached image of Seven Macaw being shot down by the Hero Twins.

"The enclosed image (below) is a drawing of a hammered copper Bird produced by the Hopewell Indians form Ohio (400 BC to 400 AD) . It is presented here as a comparison image for the "parrot" geoglyph (marker) found at the edge of the Parrotopia complex. Notice the parrot-like head, the beak, the round body, the tail
feathers and foot. Also, note the overall open wing, profiled posture, which is very reminiscent of the design expressed within the parrot geoglyph on Mars.
Is this another clue to our lost heritage?"

George J. Haas

RCH Comments on "Parrotopia"

Posted By: George J. Haas
Date: Sunday, 10 March 2002, at 2:00 p.m.

Richard C. Hoagland just commented on Wilmer Faust's discovery of the "Parrotopia" complex "LIVE" on the Anomaly Network, IRC Network, March 10, 2002.

The following is what Mr. Hoagland had to say, in responce to a question asked by The Cydonia Institute member *Jim, about this amazing image;
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"I see an ancient urban complex partially buried and slowly being exhumed.

It's quite obviously artificial from all the regions but, very old and in ruin.

As for the Parrot, that's a bit of a projection but, the percent of the geometry certainly supports the artificiality of the city."

RCH
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Richard also commented that The Enterprise Mission will also be using the "Parrtopia" image in an upcoming comparison with other Martian examples of "ruins" sometime next week.

Thank you *Jim.

George J. Haas
The Cydonia Institute
&
Friend of the Enterprise Mission

For those of me who missed it

Posted By: Chronos
Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2002, at 1:18 a.m.

In Response To: RCH Comments on "Parrotopia" (George J. Haas)

There are some transcripts of the conversation here.

I love it, first question out of the chute. Savor it, treasure it, declare your Martian fishies to be "vesica piscii" and throw a parade...

"(Hiyruu) Richard, do you recognize the other platonic solids as they relate to hyper-d or just the tetrahedron?

(RCH) You've been waiting a long time to ask this one.... :)

(Hiyruu) yes

(RCH) Of course the other Platonic solids are related to the same physics. They represent higher excited states. Look at Io, orbiting Jupiter. Not only does it have volcanoes at the classic 19.5-degree position, it also exhibits energy activity according to the higher Platonic shapes as well....

(RCH) The tetrahedron merely represents the "lowest order" of the Physics. That's why I keep referring to "tetrahedral physics," etc. Of course, it encompasses ALL the "scared geometries."

(Hiyruu) So, sacred geometry is the foundation of hyper-d?

(RCH) It seems it was a old "code," passed down through the millennia by people who knew .. .and who did NOT know ... the real importance of the geometries. They're "sacred" because they relate to the higher dimensional aspects of Reality ... and where we REALLY live. Where our "souls" originate from, as it were .... Helpful?

(Hiyruu) yes thanks Richard, I will let the next person ask now."

Cheers,

Chronos
 

Re: Parrotopia

Posted By: Bullitt
Date: Monday, 11 March 2002, at 8:49 a.m.

In Response To: Parrotopia *PIC* (Wil)

Very nice Will. The rectangular areas along the upper edge are what intrigue me the most.
Very Inca City-ish. This is similar to the area shown by Odyssey as well. This is more than likely what caught Richard's eye.
Very well done.

Parrotopia in the raw *PIC*

Posted By: Starjim
Date: Thursday, 14 March 2002, at 3:45 p.m.

Here is the context of Wils' Parrotopia. What I found fascinating is that without any enhancement the parrot really stands out. I did reduce this greatly and cropped the bottom third of the image to save some server space... but I think it is spectacular.

It is very evident that this glyph has been carved utilizing the given terrain of the area. Seems to me they did something very similar here on Earth when they carve the Sphinx. I would also suggest that the Face on Mars was carved out of its existing surroundings. It only makes sense to use what is available.
 
 

Re: Parrotopia in the raw

Posted By: peg
Date: Thursday, 14 March 2002, at 4:17 p.m.

In Response To: Parrotopia in the raw *PIC* (Starjim)

What an incredible image. I think if some of these landscapes are designed or enhanced to "give the illusion of" something, there may be something to that rather beefy thigh there that wouldn't be too far off from a falcon (?) from a distance and really, when you look closely at those toes, there is an area that stands out that intersects that's interesting, it has a center area too it anyway that connects the appendiges, imo.

Speaking of raw...

Posted By: Chronos
Date: Friday, 15 March 2002, at 1:54 a.m.

In Response To: Parrotopia in the raw *PIC* (Starjim)

Mind if I ask a dumb question? I don't deal with raw data a lot, but shouldn't there be more to the raw imq of this that 256 vertical lines of it?
I don't recall my Clementine img files being truncated like that...

And if so, is this revolting development a recent one (i.e., conveniently timed with people's interest in this pic?), or has the raw data file for the parrot always been about 9/10 missing?

Cheers,

Chronos

Re: Speaking of raw...

Posted By: starjim
Date: Friday, 15 March 2002, at 3:00 a.m.

In Response To: Speaking of raw... (Chronos)

Sounds like you did the save the imq and then used your nasaview, well I got the same result and thought it might be my older copy of the view. I did go back to the browse page and pulled the img, so I guess I'm actually mis-naming the data then. (Caught again in an error...;-) ) I did get the newer version of the view but haven't tested it out yet.

I did notice that when I pulled the last two sets of images via FTP and was busily converting them however that I was getting errors on almost every image. As it is the parrot image still is missing its bottom 1".

Re: Speaking of raw...

Posted By: Chronos
Date: Friday, 15 March 2002, at 12:22 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Speaking of raw... (starjim)

Well, no, I know what you meant, "raw" as in nothing else was done to the processed MOC gallery clip as opposed to "raw data" 'proper'. Usually someone will indicate "raw data" specifically or imq or Moc-O-Matic or whatever if that's the case.

But it's still bugging me, as far as I know when the imq file is smaller than the gif something is wrong. I went over to USGS and found the same piece of raw data in imq and its the same size, which is about half the size of the stated file size on the USGS page.

But I'm still only getting about 1/10 of the pic... which is... weird... I tend to get NASAView errors if I don't allow it time to save the gif completely, but what I will get is a correctly sized image with the missing data blank. Nothing I've done with this comes out more than 256 lines high.

?????

Chronos

Re: Speaking of raw...

Posted By: peg
Date: Friday, 15 March 2002, at 12:57 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Speaking of raw... (Chronos)

Gordon and I worked on an image once that did the same thing and he explained to me how Nasaview would sometimes "roll the image up" when it hit an error in the data (I think that's how it put it - it was on the AM3 board). I'm guessing that Nasa uses a different program to process these and produce the img files to get past that problem. Moc-o-matic is awesome for the img files.

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